TRUE INNER PEACE -
- SURE INTUITIVE KNOWING -
- EMOTIONAL and SENSUAL ECSTASY -
Alive in Ordinary Daily Life!!
is the rediscovered essense of the ancient
Wisdom practice of
Deep Inwardly Focused Socratic
The Most Profound True Lasting Happiness
(The above qualities of Being
|Coming Fully Alive|
to this ancient Tradition
results from bringing your deepest inner being
and your truest inner feelings into life,
by accessing your "inner compass" for sure knowing of what is truly
good for you.
A couple of years ago, after more than thirty years of research and
development, I found what I believe to be the essence of Socratic
Dialogue as a means for Self-realization. This is not a dry
philosophical exercise but a deeply practical method for real-life
personal transcendence and transformation. The background of this
discovery is presented in detail on this website.
then I have come to realize that the criticisms that I made below and
elsewhere on this site of various other means to self-realization also
apply to this method (what Plato called Dialectic.) Plato
in his Seventh Letter that his true philosophy was not written
anywhere. This includes all the Dialogues that he wrote. This therefore
also means that the true aims of his philosophy that he writes about in
his Dialogues could not be attained via his Dialectic. In fact, in the
Dialogues we see Socrates fail time and time again to bring his
dialogue partners to Truth or Knowledge. This is most poignantly the
case with Alcibiades, his star pupil, who is used as an example of the
true work of Dialectic. The work with him failed and the Dialectic
failed. This is not stated by Plato but it is presented by him for
everyone to see - poetic presentation rather than direct statement
being his primary style.
I have come to see is the correctness of Plato's statement in his
Seventh Letter, that truth and true knowing cannot be stated
words. Neither can it be arrived at through words, or language of any
kind (including images, stories, drama, etc.) - not even through the
very sophisticated supra-drama of the Dialectic. My criticism of other
means for self-realization is that they all involve the person in
seeking for something outside himself when the realization of Self is
only to be found inside. Self-realization is a state of Beingness that
is always already present. It is realized only directly and
immediately. Any means to self-realization is an
activity that takes you away from what is already inherent in you.
I have discovered, beyond the Dialectic but in the spirit of Plato's
core philosophy and aims, is the Truth of full Self-realization that
cannot be put into words nor attained by any means whatsoever. It
cannot be attained because it always already IS. This cannot be
attained but it can be realized, easily, directly
and immediately. And I now know how to guide anyone who wants this into
does not invalidate what is presented on this website but it does
supersede much of what is presented concerning practical methods. The
basic philosophy is the same, but now much simpler, being based on a
clearer insight into how to bring about Self-realization.(I
call this new discovery Free-Beingness. See here for full
details about this.)
Deep Inner Dynamics Of Self-Realization
DEPTH Dialogue is a practice that is in development
that is the result of a very long and ongoing search to find the lost true
inner dynamics of the ancient Wisdom practice of Deep
Focused Socratic Dialogue. It is based on almost 35 years of
extensive exploration and research, and validated through the
original texts of the ancient wisdom, as well as direct higher
The original practice was developed and
perfected over two thousand years ago in the golden age of classical
Greece by the sage philosophers and master psychologists Socrates
and Plato. They called it Dialectic, and said that it is an
unfailing, step-by-step, guided path
to deep, true, full Self-Realization
This full Self-Realization that they spoke of
naturally results in true inner peace, ever-growing joy,
unlimited freedom, expanded
creativity in all areas of life, and deep personal power from
within - conditions for true lasting happiness!
The natural and inevitable result of this is that all
"issues" and suffering are spontaneously resolved, these
being manifestations of not living as a free, creative, empowered,
fully realized self.
The Results of
Through DEPTH Dialogue
1. You function
with greater freedom, creativity and power in
all areas and levels of living.
2. All your psychological problems, pains and suffering
disappear, as Inner Peace, Sure Inner Knowing and Transcendent
Ecstasy take over.
You develop clear, confident decision-making in all areas of life,
based on sure inner knowing of what you truly love and what is truly
good for you.
4. You get deep and lasting life-changing creative
breakthroughs in any
and all areas of life, according to what you truly love - your true
5. You gain greater creative power to fulfill all your true
deeply felt desires.
You develop true, deep intimacy with others you care about,
based on accessing and sharing your own true inner feelings, and on
being more sensitively fine-tuned to their true inner feelings.
7. You experience the greatest and ultimate fulfillment in
life - that of living your
deepest inner being and your truest inner feelings all the time in your
ordinary everyday life.
method is an easy
but skillful and highly effective way of entering right into the
ongoing flow of your inner experiencing, that spontaneously results in
the transcendence of old limiting patterns into complete newness. This
happens without any deliberate effort to change anything. The changes
that do happen come from what spontaneously arises from within you
(your deepest inner being and your truest inner feelings) rather than
from any effort to change. When change happens this way it is easy,
natural and flowing, in alignment with who you truly are. All other
ways of trying to change go against the flow and against your true
DEPTH Dialogue is unique and uniquely effective
because of its
origins in Socratic Wisdom, and also because it utilizes a universal
principle of human functioning found in Socratic Dialectic that no
other practice of personal
growth knows about or uses.
That is, it works with what Socrates and Plato
called ideas and forms
(i.e. primary vibrational impulses and formative feel-images),
which are the most fundamental
underlying elements of your deepest inner world - the elements that
create every experience that you have.
It uses subtle, indirect means that allow these to
SPONTANEOUSLY REPATTERN INTO NEWNESS.
spontaneously and unfailingly results in large-scope
creative breakthroughs into ENTIRELY NEW EXPERIENCES
NEW WAYS OF FUNCTIONING - without ever going into problems or
"issues," or suffering from the past.
Deep Inwardly Focused Socratic
is a direct, experiential method of
Deep Dynamic Guided Self-Inquiry
that was developed and taught by
Socrates and Plato.
is an ordinary conversation that is brought to deeper and deeper levels
heart-to-heart connection and ego transcendence through skillful
questioning and intimate sharing.
layers and levels of sensitive, open-ended, non-directive questions
are very skillfully used to lead you directly into your deepest inner
being and your truest inner feelings, and from there out into
expression and action.
At the same time the safety and comfort of ordinary
between friends is established and deepened, so that you feel
completely at home in letting your deepest, truest inner feelings come
out easily and gracefully.
entirely through this kind of deep conversation, in the context of a
safe and caring relationship - a true loving friendship - between
you and the guide.
All other practices of personal
psychotherapy, healing or transformation of consciousness operate
through what can now be seen in the light of the ancient wisdom as the
unnecessary and mostly ineffective approach of
to heal, cure, fix, work through, change, oppose, reform, remold,
reframe or reprogram your old experiences or your old
That approach is, at best, just working old stuff
configurations. It does not take you to the deepest inner levels
where experiences are created. Because of this it never
complete transcendence of all old patterns into total newness in
every area of self and life that characterize true
Only the ancient wisdom of Socratic DEPTH Dialogue does that.
That old approach, in fact, can NEVER
EVER work because the most
fundamental characteristic of all problems, "issues" and suffering
in the most basic structures of the limited ego-self
that that approach tries to help. The ego-self is a closed-loop
internal feedback system that always only re-enforces itself. This
means that the old approach always
basically only re-enforces rather than alleviates the deepest causes of
ONLY COMPLETE TRANSCENDENCE OF THE WHOLE
STRUCTURE AND EXISTENCE
OF THE LIMITED EGO-SELF WILL EVER BRING THE END OF PROBLEMS,
SUFFERING AND "ISSUES," AND THE EMERGENCE OF TRUE HAPPINESS !!!!
can only be accomplished by the
kind of deep, thorough,
skillful, subtle self-exploration that DEPTH Dialogue guides you
through, and the spontaneous dynamic creative repatterning of your
inner formative world that results from that. It can only happen when,
as a result of this, your deepest inner being and and your truest inner
feelings come out
into your life to take over from your old limited ego-self.
What Is The Self That
simply means a broader, deeper, more creative and powerful way of
organizing the whole range of your experiences and actions than the way
of the ego, which is to organize these around a fictional central
("you") in an imaginary story (your "remembered" life.) Self is not a
new and better "you" (a "true self," a more "authentic" self, or
whatever) in a better story, but goes completely beyond this. It is a
new way of being in which you no longer play the part of a character in
a story but exist as a living flow of sensitive, intuitive, present
experiencing, continually accessing the higher, expansive, creative
intelligence of nature itself through the deep feeling of life inside
As such, you no longer organize your experience by monitoring
referencing memories (of self and its stories), but purely through
present felt-experiencing. You still have full ability to reference
memories, but you are no longer determined by the limits of any of
of stories is focusing on memories for the enactment of conflicts and
the dramatization of pain
and suffering, living your life completely beyond this spontaneously
takes you completely out of the world of suffering. And this is
accomplished simply by finding a completely new and different way of
your experience and actions. Living this way is the meaning of Self
DEPTH Dialogue is not a synthesis or integration of
practices. It is a rediscovery and reformulation of the
unique way of Socrates and Plato that they called the Dialectic.
Because this is so entirely new, different and unique in the modern
world, having been lost for over two thousand years, this site goes
into considerable detail to tell you exactly what it is and how it
is done. The following links give you a first glimpse of that. The
rest of the site goes much deeper and gets much more detailed, so
that you can understand it in depth if you are interested in
What It Is - A general description of the practice.
Self-Realization - What it's really all about; its heart and
Benefits - What you can expect to get from doing it.
How To Use This Site
- What's on the site and
getting the most from the extensive information that is
Note: If you are new to this
whole topic, the best place to start is the other website on DEPTH
It is gives a much briefer and easier
to understand introduction, and
also instructions on how to do a simplified self-help version of DEPTH
This site will make a lot more sense once you have looked at
site, and even better yet, gone through the experiences offered there.
In fact, the only way to really and
truly understand the deep inner dynamics of Socratic dialogue is to
it, and let the experiences of it unfold in you. Then the interaction
of understanding and direct personal experience can happen. Look at the
section on Training both here
and in the other website for this.